2Shapes for Rhino, new pricing

Hi! :slight_smile:

2Shapes for Rhino was created as a basic set of tools to integrate 2Shapes Cloud within Rhino. We have received much feedback from users around the world, requesting more and more features.

Developing a product of this kind demands many programming hours and a considerable cost for the company; therefore, we had two options: leave the product highly limited like we initially planned, or continue investing in it. We decided to continue adding more features, that’s why we had to add a price to 2Shapes for Rhino.

For now, and until it’s fully developed, it will be free, but after this stage, it will have a price of 499€ per year, making it less than 40€ per month, very affordable if you use the software.

2Shapes for Rhino is underdevelopment, and it will be until early next week, and it will be free for all the user before is fully released.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Regards,

Rafael del Molino

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Hi Rafa,
That’s what I thought. You can not develop and keep improving the product without charging for it.
This reminds me how Rhino started. First there was a beta version which everybody could download and use for free. The rapidly growing user base combined with Rhino newsgroup created a perfect testing opportunity allowing for improvements to the software, so that it was ready for the prime time even before it was commercially released. When we became the first Rhino dealer in Canada, we had a waiting list of users wanting to buy the commercial version as soon as it was released. Its release in 1998 started its growth to greatness.
Since history tends to repeat itself, the same may happen with 2Shapes.

Keep up with good work and looking forward to further features and improvements!

Best,
John Schindler

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Hi Rafa, I was wondering how you were going to be able to offer a complete jlry software for free, and seeing how most of the build tools are still ‘under construction’ I began thinking where it’s all going for the rhino users. I still prefer the old days when you got a cd when you purchased a program instead of all this cloud and have to be signed in to the internet to use the software for one I’m not always around the internet when I feel like working and paying a monthly fee won’t work for me as it’s just another ‘monthly’ bill to pay when the economy is tight and to pay $585 per year and not own anything is not worth it to me . I still have a copy of R. Gold 3 back from the old starting days when you started that I use once in awhile but the cost of all the new software’s has made me do my work using basic rhino… Had I known that you don’t get a cd and have to be on the internet to work I probably wouldn’t have upgraded to rhino6 either.
Best of luck

So if I canceled my subscription to 2Shapes, I will no longer be able to use any of the features at all, or will I only lose my ability to use the cloud capabilities and access to future updates?

Hi Ronald,

Welcome to the 2Shapes discourse!

It is a subscription plan, like Netflix, but with one difference, all the files that you create, you have the 3DM you can use them in Rhino anytime.

Just a comment from a financial point of view. When you “buy” an application, you are paying for the right to use it. Probably you can not use it after 5 years, without paying for updates.

It was 2 reasons to set the price as a subscription, the most important is we want to offer all the advantages of the cloud, and we can not do that without subscription mode.

The second reason is to help freelance and small companies to enter the 3D world. 500€/years is about 1.3€ per day! :slight_smile: But, if we compare with a software of 5000€, you are paying 10 years ahead, the first day. Later you can add maintenance fee per year, and maintenance fee per support! Maybe you need 3 more the next year, or maybe you need 3 less next year, this is more flexible.

For 500€ you have the software, updates, and support! This system is better for the customers than for the developers! :slight_smile:

Sorry for this long text! :slight_smile:

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,

Rafael del Molino

Rafael,

I guess I am spoiled as a owner of a RG 6 license which I am still using today. While I didn’t pay as much for RG as a Matrix license, it is still functional and part of my workflow considering it was abandoned after the merger with Stuller.

I will have to determine if the subscription model is where I want to be. I’m not a big fan of the subscription model since more companies are moving towards it to force people into paying for it monthly or yearly as long as they use it, losing all access to it as soon as the subscription stops.

But enough of that business model discussion… A few more questions if you don’t mind.

The plugin is still in beta correct? How long until you believe that you will actually make a full-featured release product that is no longer considered beta? Are you planning on increasing the cost to users when that happens? What are your thoughts on annual price increases?

Thanks,
Ron

Hi @Ronald_Kundla, thanks for joining our community!
Please, find your questions covered below:

The plugin is still in beta correct?

Yes, at the time of writing this message, 2Shapes for Rhino is in the Beta stage. And although it is labeled “Beta”, it’s amazing to work with. We are adding tons of new functionalities, and reimagining others, our objective is to release the first version of 2Shapes for Rhino meeting as many expectations as possible.

How long until you believe that you will actually make a full-featured release product that is no longer considered beta?

It depends, after a year of the official launch of the Beta, many people are still requesting daily new features that we are working on. We want to offer as much of a complete product as possible.

Are you planning on increasing the cost to users when that happens?

No, we are not observing this, in fact, we will soon announce 2Shapes One, which will give you access to all areas of 2Shapes, a single area at a time. All areas will cost the same (Design will not be more expensive than Ecommerce). It will be a step forward on consolidating our product’s pricing.

What are your thoughts on annual price increases?

It’s not something we expect.